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hannaramaa | By oblivious I mean being gullible, taking a long time to pick up on things, not being observant. I ask this because I used to be so proud of the fact I could get along with women really easily but I'm starting to realize more and more even the girls I thought were my best friends are actually jealous of me. At least they can't talk behind my back to each other because they don't know one another, but it's still crummy to think they're jealous of me getting complimented all the time. Especially when I always saw them as the "star". The only thing I can think of attributing to the pattern above is my moon in Taurus opposition pluto in Scorpio, and I have Neptune in the 7th trine my moon as well which may be why I didn't pick up on it ever 'til now. And I have Mars in the 12th which I heard was secret enemies ^.^ Still wanna know other possibilities though. |
ail221 | Water void. |
hannaramaa | quote: Originally posted by ail221: Water void.
Really? I thought water lived in it's own world though and used their emotions to protect them. |
frankie2912 | Pisces sun!!! |
ail221 | Your unable to read people and you take it as if there are many negative female presence around, I won't deny what your feeling but maybe you weren't picking up what they were feeling that caused them to react that way to you. I say this because my mother is practically a water void her only planet with water is Neptune at a very late degree of Scorpio. With a heavy Libra influence, she doesn't keep many female friends she has more Male friends than women and claims women are jealous of her even her sisters. Would I deny her feelings or her physical appearance, no but she lacks the ability to realize how she treats other women and how she interacts with them. I suppose her and mine relationship would be worse if she didn't have that neptune planet. edit.
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aquaguy91 | [QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa: By oblivious I mean being gullible, taking a long time to pick up on things, not being observant.I ask this because I used to be so proud of the fact I could get along with women really easily but I'm starting to realize more and more even the girls I thought were my best friends are actually jealous of me. At least they can't talk behind my back to each other because they don't know one another, but it's still crummy to think they're jealous of me getting complimented all the time. Especially when I always saw them as the "star". The only thing I can think of attributing to the pattern above is my moon in Taurus opposition pluto in Scorpio, and I have Neptune in the 7th trine my moon as well which may be why I didn't pick up on it ever 'til now. And I have Mars in the 12th which I heard was secret enemies ^.^ Still wanna know other possibilities though.[/ QUOTE] lol I have moon in taurus opposition pluto and I have similar experiences but instead of jealousy its more of hate, I have had girls talk behind my back a lot. |
hannaramaa | quote: Originally posted by ail221: Your unable to read people and you take it as if there are many negative female presence around, I won't deny what your feeling but maybe you weren't picking up what they were feeling that caused them to react that way to you.
OH I see what you mean. I know not every woman is jealous of me, of course not! But I have two close friends and they both get irritated at the attention I get even though it's temporary (and the attention they get, that I wish I had, is long lasting... -i don't get it.) coincidentally they both have Scorpio ASC. Another male Scorpio ASC I know would get irritated if I got more people to sign up for credit cards than he did at work (but that's just me thinking out loud to myself about Scorpio ASC. Moving on!) Maybe it's just a Scorp ASC thing. For instance today a salesman complimented my Virgo friend's hair, and she was surprised. Instead of just accepting the compliment and moving on though she had to tell me "I'm glad he said he liked my hair, I was surprised. Usually everyone tells you they like your hair, they like the blonde. I wanted to ask him what I liked about it." And I'm like "o.0" because I hadn't dissed her or felt jealous because he complimented her hair. It's hair. -_- Maybe they're not jealous, or maybe they are jealous of my confidence (because really I think that's what draws compliments to anybody)
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hannaramaa | quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: lol I have moon in taurus opposition pluto and I have similar experiences but instead of jealousy its more of hate, I have had girls talk behind my back a lot.
It's a part of life that people talk behind your back though. I think I would only get genuinely angry or hurt if what they were saying wasn't true. I don't know for sure if people talk behind my back, I just assume so. Have you ever had girls be jealous OF you? I've had a FEW guys (granted very few) be jealous of me in my lifetime and that always weirded me out. Like, we're not even in the same field...why are they competing?!
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aquaguy91 | quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: It's a part of life that people talk behind your back though. I think I would only get genuinely angry or hurt if what they were saying wasn't true. I don't know for sure if people talk behind my back, I just assume so. Have you ever had girls be jealous OF you? I've had a FEW guys (granted very few) be jealous of me in my lifetime and that always weirded me out. Like, we're not even in the same field...why are they competing?!
yea I know. I don't know if they have been jealous of me or not, but I can't imagine why they would be lol. its more like I'm shunned, the only way I know how to say it is a lot of women hate me, all my friends girlfriends have hated me and tried to get my friends to quit hanging out with me, even though I'm a great friend to their boyfriends. one in particular hated my effing guts even though I did all kinds of sh!t to help her and my friend out, let them stay with me, fed them on numerous occasions, helped them move into a new place for free etc. |
dadevi | I have a sagittarius stellium in the fifth house, and a lot of things go right over my head. I blame Saturn! XD |
Odette | virgo mercury - oblivious! *face palm* |
C1ND3R | Mars in the twelfth can do that but it also depends on what houses mars rules in the chart. Mars in the twelfth can actually be aware and see signs or clues in flashes of insight that reveal hidden aspects of people even to the point of inherently knowing the hidden workings of people. Mars in the twelfth can and may be a lot like the wise owl if there are aspects to support it. As for the op and neptune in seventh.. Consider that the culprit. |
hannaramaa | quote: Originally posted by C1ND3R: Mars in the twelfth can do that but it also depends on what houses mars rules in the chart.Mars in the twelfth can actually be aware and see signs or clues in flashes of insight that reveal hidden aspects of people even to the point of inherently knowing the hidden workings of people. Mars in the twelfth can and may be a lot like the wise owl if there are aspects to support it. As for the op and neptune in seventh.. Consider that the culprit.
So Mars in the 12th has a similar affect to being a "Grimm" (hope someone gets that reference!!)? And yeah, I suspected the opp. first of course, I just thought that was limited to just my relationship with my mother. I also read a thread on here by curiouswoman about moon/pluto squares and thought if that made women jealous of her then my opposition would have a different effect than jealousy. Guess not! |
libraschoice77 | Yes, I agree with the water void theory, my husband has most of his planets in fire. He has his Venus in Cancer, which is his only water he has in his chart. He is not aware of his effect on people. Plenty of appreciative smiles from women when we are out and about, I have even caught a few just gawking at him. And sometimes jealousy from other guys, with remarks they make to him. But he never seems to notice it, or mabe he doesn't want to lol. I nicknamed him the Forrest Gump of sex appeal...just oblivious |
hannaramaa | quote: Originally posted by libraschoice77: Yes, I agree with the water void theory, my husband has most of his planets in fire. He has his Venus in Cancer, which is his only water he has in his chart. He is not aware of his effect on people. Plenty of appreciative smiles from women when we are out and about, I have even caught a few just gawking at him. And sometimes jealousy from other guys, with remarks they make to him. But he never seems to notice it, or mabe he doesn't want to lol. I nicknamed him the Forrest Gump of sex appeal...just oblivious
Oh what are his house placements? Jealousy is such a weird thing! It's normal, it's just...pointless. |
libraschoice77 | Hannaramaa, he has his Sun and Mercury in Leo 2nd house, Moon conjunction Jupiter in Sag 6th house. His Venus in Cancer placement is 12th house...could be some of it right there. |
hannaramaa | Venus in the 12th would definitely point to that! I think the same thing about Mars in the 12th for women...I never know when guys are hitting on me. |
libraschoice77 | It could be also where having Venus or Mars in 12th in ones natal chart, might make them unaware of peoples attraction or love for them. I have Mars in 12th, and use to not be able to tell if someone was attracted to me or not also. Then again its worked the other way to, where I was attracted to someone and they couldn't tell my desire for them... |
hannaramaa | quote: Originally posted by libraschoice77: It could be also where having Venus or Mars in 12th in ones natal chart, might make them unaware of peoples attraction or love for them. I have Mars in 12th, and use to not be able to tell if someone was attracted to me or not also.
I agree, my Venus is in Aries in the 11th and I'm often in my own little world. |
sweet-scorpion | Sexual obliviousness: I know that Mars in the 12th in synastry can make the 12th house person a little unaware of the Mars person trying to win their affections and sexually please them. It can be frustrating for the Mars persons since they act to get the 12th house person's attentions but it often falls short. I actually have this with someone now AND their Saturn opposes my Mars... it can suck at times. |